A) Hey, I have an interesting psychological question for you : do you think we can have perfectly neutral thoughts, with no positive or negative connotations, I know less negative thoughts and very minutely positive thoughts exist, but can we have perfectly neutral thoughts?
Think about it for a minute before reading more...
This has implications because we spend so much time thinking in autopilot and sometimes I find myself in a bad mood or dreading something, could it be that these autopilot thoughts are affecting my state of mind without my awareness..?
B) I suppose it is possible to have neutral thought depending on what you mean by neutral.
For instance, the is a chair in front of me and I think, "Chair" to me it feels like a perfectly neutral thought. I dont really have an opinion on the word or concept.
For instance, the is a chair in front of me and I think, "Chair" to me it feels like a perfectly neutral thought. I dont really have an opinion on the word or concept.
However I am predisposed to understanding the word and language by my experiences with 'chairs', of which I have had more positive experiences than negative. so perhaps it falls more under the minutely positive thoughts rather than purely neutral.
However you bring up autopilot, and that is an interesting set of thoughts. Autopilot is like conditioning. Like in martial arts or when converting something from a task to a habit. Your conscious awareness of the motions you are doing is slowly pushed aside as the brain creates paths that allow for the reactions to be controlled without necessary effort.
Like a computer I guess, when it defrags to try and streamline information and processes, so that it can free up space. and memory. to use a crude example. lol
Now this is all fairly apparent, and I can only use my own example from here on. My experience with autopilot is two fold. Necessity and detached. For instance, my driving is autopilot, my morning routine is autopilot, answering the phone at work, withdrawing money. I am vaguely aware if at all, when I am doing these things. And yet I know that my body lower functions are aware, when I reexamine the events.
I didn't go through red lights, etc
But then I have detached autopilot, which is a result of my depression. My personality is on autopilot. which is a stage concept.
Its like, windows for mac lol, my normal personality is windows, however at the moment I am a mac, but I act like windows so that people don't think I am a mac. lol... Not sure if that was clear.
Its like, windows for mac lol, my normal personality is windows, however at the moment I am a mac, but I act like windows so that people don't think I am a mac. lol... Not sure if that was clear.
anyway, look this is getting to be a very long reply. but I will finish it up. lol.
I am in autopilot even in my 'normal' responses, Like, I know what I would say, and so I say that rather than say what my depression would say.
I am in autopilot even in my 'normal' responses, Like, I know what I would say, and so I say that rather than say what my depression would say.
That form of autopilot occurs in a lot of people in different ways, Its a detachment. Because one is not actively engaged with the world then that disengaged meant can result in negative emotions growing. These can be anything from frustration to sadness and dread, and are not available to our conscious access because our conscious area is set on autopilot.
ok... last word I promise. lol...
However, to reflect upon the two points that you brought up, Can we have perfectly Neutral thoughts, and can autopilot be affecting you. The answer to the latter is yes. Autopilots thoughts have as much an effect on the body, and thus the state of mind because as much as our conscious mind might not seem to be conscious of the actions and thoughts, both the sense of detachment as well as the actions themselves are still experienced by the body and mind and so leave a mark.
And to answer the first. I do not believe it is possible for human beings to have perfectly neutral thoughts. Because as chemically driven and emotional beings we are experiential first and foremost. What ever the thought is, our minds and bodies experience it through emotions, or at least at a base line, attraction and repulsion. These will always hold sway to us and effect our thoughts.
And to answer the first. I do not believe it is possible for human beings to have perfectly neutral thoughts. Because as chemically driven and emotional beings we are experiential first and foremost. What ever the thought is, our minds and bodies experience it through emotions, or at least at a base line, attraction and repulsion. These will always hold sway to us and effect our thoughts.
Perhaps as a thought experiment only potential synthetic, not chemically driven, with a will of its own could have fully neutral thoughts. I dont know.
A) I think that the awareness of us not having neutral thoughts means that we have the power to decide, i'd rather have a positive thought over a negative one for example, or think of something positively than negatively
B)Yeah, see that works as well. But I think its two factors. I think that there is a willingness to decide our outlooks, ie, the how power of attraction and perspective. Being positive rather than negative, looking for positive rather than negative.
However, these do not necessitate that all our responses are under our 'knowing' control. I think that some of our reactions are hidden and subconscious. and therefore they have effects on our consciousness without our awareness.
So I think, so long as your conscious awareness is driven to positive thoughts that it is better. But I think it was you who told me that everything is relative. We cannot know positive without knowing negative as well. lol
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